In 2014, I posted on Facebook, why being Gay is NOT a choice. I referenced my blog post that I made, which you can find >Here<
Short Version:
A so called friend I met from my Formspring days had decided to argue with me that being gay was a choice, despite me telling him that it's not a choice and that I never chose to be gay and how no one in their right mind would choose something that is widely hated and discriminated against.
"My friend Van: Why would anyone want to be gay though? You live a harder life because of it!"
The Formspring friend provided sources that he praised, even though they were not factual and just opinions made by the source.
If you're curious to see the Conversation, I copied and pasted it from when it happened. (It's been hibernating in this blog for so many years!)
Long Version:
Before we get into this pile of trash
Let me tell you my two cents
What I think is weird is, if you think being gay is a choice, then you think everyone chose to be gay. With that logic, It's like if someone hates Salami, but you don't believe it's possible to hate Salami and you tell Salami haters that they do like Salami and are just choosing not to eat it because they're "Rebellious" and want to be "Quirky", or some other asinine reason.
That's a very similar take, like the person doesn't like Salami and you're telling them that they're lying to themselves about how they feel about something, when obviously you aren't them so you wouldn't understand their dislike for Salami!
Like people get so annoyed that they can't relate with someone on something, that they have to hate them for it, or just flat out say it doesn't exist when it does!
People saying being gay is a choice is like saying that person is lying to themselves, when they know damn well better about themselves than you do. No one is going to lie about being gay (except for those rude people who do it for clout, those people should be ignored.)
It's so weird that people try to force their ideology on others, like who are you to tell me on how I should or should not feel?!
The only lie I lived was thinking I was straight, which is a byproduct of only seeing straight people in Tv shows and Video Games, I didn't even know you could be LGBT because the straight agenda has been shoved down our throats our entire lives. (Yeah I said it! There's no gay agenda, but there's a straight one since they didn't want you to think LGBT people existed!)
Here is the blog post on why, being gay is not a choice.
The Facebook Convo
For Privacy, we'll call them Fish-Paste, but in a previous blog post about Ex-Formspring friends, I called them Danger Noodle.
For Authentic purposes, I will NOT be
changing the wording of my posts (Although I want to because I went
through an ellipses phase that I don't want to talk about. But I will
fix Capitalization and punctuation for my friends post.)
I had posted the "why being gay is not a choice" blog post on my Facebook and they responded with...
Fish-Paste:
So I take it you totally ignored the recent findings by renowned institutions? http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2014/06/17/the-latest-in-scientific-research-there-is-no-gay-gene
Me:
I've never even seen that before, but I call BS on it.. I am not a fan of religious/republican sites... but that one seems fishy. If someone doesn't agree with it, I am sure they could make up a story like that.
If it was from a scientific type of site, then I would believe it .. or at-least acknowledge it more. But the fact that is a republican/religious site, I don't believe it at all.
I know that being gay is not a choice personally, since I did not choose to be gay.
Fish-Paste:
So you are telling me that you don't have the free will to choose NOT to be gay?
(Editors Comment: I'm wondering if they're saying that you "choose" who to be with, but you can't "choose" who you're attracted to, if that makes sense. Because I've seen that argument before and it's like totally not the point. People always have to point out the gray areas..)
Me:
Okay, so I skimmed the article you posted before, but this time I actually read it.. and it's actually not any sort of research, all they did was pick out what they thought was odd from another article online.. there was no actual scientific research on their part at all... just opinions and conclusions they came up with. You really can't base anything off of that.
I hope you're being sarcastic, but I can't completely tell as I have a clueless personality. lol
But, if you're are being 100% serious, I will ask you if you actually read my blog post.. because I explained everything there.
I cannot get a hard on for a woman, it is not possible.. I did not want to be gay at first.. I would have chosen to be straight if it was possible, but it's not.
I have no attraction towards women, just like how a straight person can't be attracted to someone of the same gender.. it's not possible.
Fish-Paste:
I did read your blog post all the way through (in case you thought *I* skimmed as well).
Me:
But were you being sarcastic? Like do you honestly think being gay is a choice? Or were you playing around?
Fish-Paste:
I honestly think it's a choice.
Don't believe me? Just look at the lifestyle choices of David Bowie from the 70's through today and TRY to tell me it's not a personal choice.
(Editors Comment: They seem to be confusing Personal tastes in Fashion with being gay, which is not the same thing. Also, clothes don't have genders, let people wear what they want! Men used to wear high-heels and dresses back in the day, but somewhere along the line it changed into a "womens only" kind of thing.)
Me:
Well, I KNOW It is not a choice. I guess we all have our opinions, even if we don't agree with them. But, I don't see why anyone would choose to allow themselves to be hated by thousands of people, beaten and tortured.
I know I didn't. It's just not physically possible to choose who to be attracted to.
I know I can't change your mind, we all have our opinions.. fact or not.
David Bowie sounds like he has/had a hormone imbalance, he just didn't know what he was into and unlike most, he didn't know until he was older.. Either that or he is bisexual if anything, but mainly heterosexual with slight bisexual tendencies. It's not just black and white, it's a whole spectrum. Someone could be bi and only be attracted to one person of one gender and attracted plenty of people of another gender.
Refer to the Kinsey Scale.
Kinsey scale - Wikipedia
But, you cannot make an opinion on just one person. Some people are just different like that, but most people know what they like, whether it is straight, gay, bi, pansexual... etc..
Then I had linked my friend Victor... he was recently talking to me about how the guy didn't listen to him either.
Victor:
Correction being gay is neither a choice or a genetic disorder. It is in fact a physical or mental attraction to the same sex. While it is true that most homosexuals have certain traits
very small and very exact, however the human body will respond to almost all types of stimuli if touched erotically especially in certain erogenous areas of the body (read up on certain sexual abuse situation and how others try expound on the victims arousal) however it is the mind that tells us off attraction and since you both are fond of science than you both should know that attraction is caused by pheromones we put out and how others respond to these pheromones. So a homosexual is really just responding to these pheromones that males produce instead of a females, also one cannot count religion in any argument via that there are other religions and in ancient times homosexuality was more common than weather shifts, But I Digress. While there are heterosexuals that have at times chose live the heterosexual lifestyle that does not include the entire gay population, For instance a female that will engage in homoerotic contact with another female for her significant others viewing pleasure or for another males attention or even male and female actors in the adult industry that perform homosexual sex as part of there job. So in essence both of you are right and wrong. Not to mention I don't see the big deal, I have sex men and women and even partake in orgies. As far as I'm concerned its not really topic worthy. However also the whole gay gene inst what people mean by born gay but if you want to say there might be, than bring up the fact that most homosexuals have certain physical features that seem to match and coincide with other homosexuals, and no not that horrible lisp dear god, but certain eye-shape, body type both tiny and big, its no exact but pretty close.
So remember attraction is caused by pheromones and how we respond, things like homosexuality and heterosexuality is actually all about your nature vs nurture, because before we did gender-base and sexualize most societies were very sexually open. Well except when it came to children that was non negotiable as I understand. The old native Americans called it two-soul, a person born with the soul or spirit of a man and woman in one body when it came to homosexuality. When it changed I have no idea.
Hope that helps your argument because friends shouldn't fight
Fish-Paste
did like the comment, as well as a few of my comments, which was weird
and made it harder to figure out if this was all some horrendous joke.
The Verdict:
I decided that I didn't need this ignorant jerk on my Facebook. He also annoyed me with other things by commenting on my Facebook, with rude remarks.
One time I posted a video of the anime Excel Saga and in the clip the main character Excel appears in America and doesn't know what she is saying in English and doesn't know where or what she is doing. By doing this, she angers the residents.
Fish-Paste commented "If that happened to me I would get my gun and start shooting!". Like UGH why.
Because that's appropriate....He was such a buzzkill by making Light-Hearted things so negative and violent for absolutely no reason!
Although I blocked them, I went on their profile 7 years later on my work Facebook. They're VERY Conservative, so that explains everything and I'm glad I blocked them. Don't need such ignorance in my life.
